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Ep# 319

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:57 pm
by champguy
I'm not really going to pretend I know much about towers or finance, but one of the towers which should be on the list for closure certainly should be North Bend, South West Oregon Regional. (

Perfectly good airport, functioning just fine, then they get a grant and build a tower, then they discover they need a landing fee to pay for it. Then, well not all that many folks wanted to go to North Bend anyway.

As for safety, how are young pilots going to get any real world experience if they never have to deal with the responsibility and the decision making necessary for flying outside the system.

I watch the "Freight Dog" youngsters hauling packages in and out of Florence Muni in all kinds of weather and circumstances and know that they will grow up competent to fly the line, deal with emergencies, and bring folks safely down again. We need more of that not less.

Just maybe everything the government is doing doesn't need to be done. Why have a flight surgeon for a third class medical if a bureaucracy in Oklahoma City is going to review every action and micromanage from there?
Is there something about the air in Oklahoma that makes their doctors better than our doctors?

Sorry, end of rant.

Re: Ep# 319

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:29 pm
by mike.smith

I only have one comment on the show. You said that in the northeast between Boston and NY City we'd be lucky to get flight following 10% of the time. I fly out of Hanscom (KBED) just outside of Boston and fly often down to NYC (over the top of JFK or down the Hudson River Corridor) and I get flight following 99.99999% of the time. In fact I can only remember one time where I was refused due to controller workload. :D

Re: Ep# 319 - Where is Tustin?

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:28 pm
by jarheadpilot82

I assume that the article was talking about the former Marine Corps Air Station Tustin CA, with its large blimp hangars. The hangars are huge and are very easy to see when you are on final approach and landing to the south at John Wayne International Airport, Santa Ana, CA.

Those large blimp hangars are much like the ones located at the former Naval Air Station Moffett Field CA as well as the former Naval Air Station Lakehurst NJ, site of the Hindenburg disaster.

Re: Ep# 319

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:39 am
by champguy
In Tillamook, OR we also have an old Naval Airbase with one remaining Blimp Hangar.
The hangar is almost as amazing as the planes displayed inside. The entire structure was built up from timber, Erector Set style, in very short order. Still serviceable today, it is a great example of what can be done, when someone is simply told to Get-R-Done.

Re: Ep# 319

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:53 pm
by cozy171bh
A note on the discussion of tower closings due to sequestration. Our airline will see 17 of the 80+ airports in our route structure turn into uncontrolled airports. Granted, our business model provides service to customers in second tier markets. Our risk assessment concluded that there will be a small increase in risk. Professional pilots will have not problems with obtaining and canceling clearances. Rather the increase in risk involves the mix of jet traffic (MD-80, A-320, B-757) with GA traffic without the benefit of separation services provided by an operational tower. We can manage this on our end, but recognize that diverse aircraft types at varying speeds is a challenge in the pattern.

I'm guessing that cooler heads will prevail and reach an 11th hour decision. It is already happening, in that at least one airport we serve, the city has stepped in and agreed to cover the cost of tower payroll until the federal government solves its problem.

Re: Ep# 319

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:45 pm
by RigaRunner
If you want to see blimp hangars, take a look at the Central Market in Riga, Latvia. These guys were serious about blimps and airships in the inter war days....


Re: Ep# 319

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:25 pm
by jackhodgson
Very impressive.